our 17 year old son doesn't drive, so when he came home with a $103 ticket i was shocked, what did you do j-walk...no he was caught smoking across the street from his high school.
it was a minor in possession of tabacco violation.
jeez, $103 for that...i've seen hundreds of underage kids smoking, i had no idea this was a possibility.
I knew one could get fined for underage use, but I never actually heard of it being enforced
Tell you what.
I'll take his ticket if he takes the ticket I got last night for speeding 20+
It was only a matter of time before I got nabbed, glad I slowed down before I saw Mr. Police Officer
the argument witnesses make is that they are not encumbered by the world and its so-called "freedom".
they feel they are "free" from all the typical problems of this "worldly system of things"........if you could reason with a witness as to whether or not they are truly "free'', what would you say to help them see the light?
How are we not free?drnewson
Good question.
As someone said, can you post your name here and show that an active JW is posting to an 'apostate' site?
I bet without even knowing a thing about you where you'll be this Sunday at sunset, now tell me where I'll be
Sell your four door car and get a two door?
Show up to give your next talk on the Ministry School in tennis shoes and jeans?
The next time someone offers to exchange your literature for theirs and read it, can you do this?
I could go on....
greetings and welcome to the board.
look forward to hearing your story.. .
sincerely,.
Anyone good enough for Valis is good enough for me
Welcome!
my book recommendation...
i have referenced this book elsewhere on the site, but i wanted to dedicate a thread to this book.
my recommendation for all x-jw's to help them combat any future mind control is the book:
Thx for the comments Special K.
Yes, shotgun is finding that he is becoming a "hero" right now.
I find reading his posts about the elder visits exasperating.
It brings up the same feelings I had when I was going through all of that crap myself only months ago.
Poor shotgun must be feeling so beatup from all of that crap, plus not having your wife in your corner can feel like it's you against the world
remember well, your posts about the elder visits. you too are one of my more recent heros.
my book recommendation...
i have referenced this book elsewhere on the site, but i wanted to dedicate a thread to this book.
my recommendation for all x-jw's to help them combat any future mind control is the book:
Then the same mistake is made again, "leaping from the frying pan into the fire as it were".
I couldn't have said it any better myself!
This is the position I remember being in once I realized the truth about the Troof!
I desired to be part of another group that had 'the answers'.
I'm glad I postponed going to any other churches, bible groups, etc until my mind settled down and I got chance to catch my breath to realize that god wasn't going to strike me dead, right then and there, for not having my name in some other religion's registery.
Now I am finally looking into things that I always wanted to look into as a JW, and before i even was a JW.
april fools!!!!!!
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I sniffed a trick, but I thought:
"Well, it has the ring of truth to it."
Doh!!!
my book recommendation...
i have referenced this book elsewhere on the site, but i wanted to dedicate a thread to this book.
my recommendation for all x-jw's to help them combat any future mind control is the book:
After reading Shotgun's postings, that is so creepy, but true. Hard to believe Goldhammer wasn't a JW.
xjw-b12
That's what I found frightening as well.
I thought that since I was out of the JW's, I could never be suckered into another high-control group again.
The thing I have to now consider for myself is this: can I lose my 'true self' even in an a supposedly 'innocuous' group, and therefore, be robbed of true happiness?
Here's some info on Goldhammer:
Goldhammer is a cult survivor himself [never JW, but Niscience].
He joined the cult after having an education, home, wife, kids, fancy car in the driveway, the whole nine yards.
Most people would say he had it all.
He says he felt a 'God-Hole', like something was missing, and that is how he got sucked into a cult.
I find this bio info of interest because many people feel that only a stupid person would get sucked into a cult.
This just is not the case.
what would you list as the top "must do's" after leaving the borg?.
it can be serious or goofy.. im in a goofy mood tonight so here's mine.. 1. give oral sex.
2. recive oral sex.
Wow doodle!
Well, I have started my list
1. Take Doodle-V on a date
After reading Simon's and Farkel's stunts, I smelled this one a mile away!
i am crazy about the red headed john.
he is so cute and just has such a cool way about him.
he's a frank sinatra dean martin type singer.
George
